FIVEWIN: WINHOTEL new metro style video
FIVEWIN: WINHOTEL new metro style video
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Re: FIVEWIN: WINHOTEL new metro style video
Congrats Otto. Very modern and professional looking UI
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Re: FIVEWIN: WINHOTEL new metro style video
Hua,
thank you for the kind words.
Best regards,
Otto
thank you for the kind words.
Best regards,
Otto
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Re: FIVEWIN: WINHOTEL new metro style video
Really nice and professional Otto.
Anyway, I understood there is a lot of works to do on the dialogs to convert a "classic" Windows style application to a "Metro style" application and - in my opinion - there isn't enough value for money to do this. Different is to migrate to a web solution (hoping FW WEB) where this work has effective value.
Anyway, I understood there is a lot of works to do on the dialogs to convert a "classic" Windows style application to a "Metro style" application and - in my opinion - there isn't enough value for money to do this. Different is to migrate to a web solution (hoping FW WEB) where this work has effective value.
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Marco
What you say is true unless you target tablet applications, then migration is valuable but it is a lot of work...
Everything has to be redesigned. I am in a middle of a small migration process and i realize the difficulty.
No menus , boxes and panels and unfortunately metropanel class still needs a lot of tuning, hopefully Antonio spends some time on it to improve it.
Richard
What you say is true unless you target tablet applications, then migration is valuable but it is a lot of work...
Everything has to be redesigned. I am in a middle of a small migration process and i realize the difficulty.
No menus , boxes and panels and unfortunately metropanel class still needs a lot of tuning, hopefully Antonio spends some time on it to improve it.
Richard
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Richard,
If you and Otto keep providing such valuable feedback, then we will keep fine tunning it.
I think this way is a very good approach and I have even seen it on another apps (not developed with FWH) so its clear that many people have thought about the same way too
If you and Otto keep providing such valuable feedback, then we will keep fine tunning it.
I think this way is a very good approach and I have even seen it on another apps (not developed with FWH) so its clear that many people have thought about the same way too
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Otto,
I am interested in more details.
1) What are you using as a container for the controls, a MetroPanel, a window, a dialog?
2) Do you have new metro controls such as the menu on the left side, etc?
3) I notice you have vertical scrolling on some screens. Isn't this different than the Windows 8 design principles (everything scrolls horizontally)?
Any other tips you care to offer?
Regards,
James
I am interested in more details.
1) What are you using as a container for the controls, a MetroPanel, a window, a dialog?
2) Do you have new metro controls such as the menu on the left side, etc?
3) I notice you have vertical scrolling on some screens. Isn't this different than the Windows 8 design principles (everything scrolls horizontally)?
Any other tips you care to offer?
Regards,
James
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Richard,
Are there any issues you are interested in that I have not mentioned?
However, after getting involved in Win 8 design, I see a bigger issue. The current metroPanel class was developed to emulate the Win 8 OS, not a Win 8 app. Win 8 OS simulators already are on the market.
But, what we need is a metropanel to develop apps in the Win 8 style. Since there can be lots of different app design formats, I think the best solution would be to use templates (as does Visual Studio). This, of course, would be a rather large project.
The alternative is to just use the current metropanel like a dialog and add controls to it manually via coding. This would be a much smaller project.
We also need more Win 8 style controls. Possibly these can just be subclasses of existing controls.
Anybody care to add thoughts on this topic?
Regards,
James
I have done some work on this and will providing it to Antonio when I have finished a few other changes. Specifically, I have fixed some scrolling issues, grouping issues, and added navigation keys....and unfortunately metropanel class still needs a lot of tuning...
Are there any issues you are interested in that I have not mentioned?
However, after getting involved in Win 8 design, I see a bigger issue. The current metroPanel class was developed to emulate the Win 8 OS, not a Win 8 app. Win 8 OS simulators already are on the market.
But, what we need is a metropanel to develop apps in the Win 8 style. Since there can be lots of different app design formats, I think the best solution would be to use templates (as does Visual Studio). This, of course, would be a rather large project.
The alternative is to just use the current metropanel like a dialog and add controls to it manually via coding. This would be a much smaller project.
We also need more Win 8 style controls. Possibly these can just be subclasses of existing controls.
Anybody care to add thoughts on this topic?
Regards,
James
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Strongly agreeBut, what we need is a metropanel to develop apps in the Win 8 style. Since there can be lots of different app design formats, I think the best solution would be to use templates (as does Visual Studio). This, of course, would be a rather large project.
The alternative is to just use the current metropanel like a dialog and add controls to it manually via coding. This would be a much smaller project.
We also need more Win 8 style controls. Possibly these can just be subclasses of existing controls.
The problem of switching between MDI and application screens I have beguin to develop simulating Win 8 and the "Charm" to the left and it works OK for me ven though I have debug it..
And the screen design was to follow VS templates for creating application
http://forums.fivetechsupport.com/viewt ... 30#p147828
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El problema de MDI y cambio entre pantallas de la aplicacion yo he empezado a desarrollar simulando a Win 8 y el "Charm" a la izquierda y funciona OK para mi aunque me queda depurarlo aun.
Y el diseño de pantallas iba a seguir las plantillas de VS para la creacion de aplicaciones.
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Re: FIVEWIN: WINHOTEL new metro style video
Hello James,
the menu is made with xBrowse and the controls are on TMetroPanel.
If you have a look at W8 own PC- Setup there is vertical scrolling too.
>Any other tips you care to offer?
What should I say. I started 2 years ago with the transformation to the “METRO STYLE LIKE LOOK”. To change a whole program is much more work than you first think. I use FIVEWIN now more like HTML. Years ago I changed all to resources now back to hardcoded.
For example:
Only the decision should I put the description and the get field in one row or above took me a week.
I found my personal style for WINHOTEL but I don’t know if this is according to the standard.
Best regards,
Otto
the menu is made with xBrowse and the controls are on TMetroPanel.
If you have a look at W8 own PC- Setup there is vertical scrolling too.
>Any other tips you care to offer?
What should I say. I started 2 years ago with the transformation to the “METRO STYLE LIKE LOOK”. To change a whole program is much more work than you first think. I use FIVEWIN now more like HTML. Years ago I changed all to resources now back to hardcoded.
For example:
Only the decision should I put the description and the get field in one row or above took me a week.
I found my personal style for WINHOTEL but I don’t know if this is according to the standard.
Best regards,
Otto
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Otto,
very nice
Congratulations
very nice
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Thanks Otto.
Index of UX guidelines for Windows Store apps
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library ... 65424.aspx
Regards,
James
I am mostly interested in developing new apps in Metro style.I started 2 years ago with the transformation to the “METRO STYLE LIKE LOOK”. To change a whole program is much more work than you first think.
I think we need an easier way. Time spent automating will be gained back many times over.I use FIVEWIN now more like HTML. Years ago I changed all to resources now back to hardcoded.
If you are interested in the Win 8 app standards, you can find them here:I found my personal style for WINHOTEL but I don’t know if this is according to the standard.
Index of UX guidelines for Windows Store apps
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library ... 65424.aspx
Regards,
James
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Otto
How do you deal with radio buttons ?
Have you developped a particular control for this ?
Richard
How do you deal with radio buttons ?
Have you developped a particular control for this ?
Richard
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Otto
Personalization of your application is wonderful and a great job.
You are using Segoe UI Symbol Font ? or pictures ? icons for "back", etc. ..
regards
Personalization of your application is wonderful and a great job.
You are using Segoe UI Symbol Font ? or pictures ? icons for "back", etc. ..
regards
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Cristobal,
FWH provides samples/touch.prg used to test the FWH Metro related Classes, with many bitmaps, segoe font use, etc.
http://forums.fivetechsupport.com/viewt ... ilit=touch
FWH provides samples/touch.prg used to test the FWH Metro related Classes, with many bitmaps, segoe font use, etc.
http://forums.fivetechsupport.com/viewt ... ilit=touch